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Efnez: /* Recommended */

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Recommended

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	* Oil cooler		* Oil cooler
	** Once again, a topic of endless debates on forums, etc.		** Once again, a topic of endless debates on forums, etc.
	** The majority opinion is that these cars don't like oil temperatures over ~250ºF due to oil thinning causing low oil pressures.		** The majority opinion is that these cars don't like oil temperatures over ~250ºF / 120 С due to oil thinning causing low oil pressures.
	** For gen2 cars (FA24D with a water/oil heat exchanger), there is an opinion that thicker oil + occasional cooldown laps is sufficient. For a complete beginner, another factor that can help is shoft-shifting at say 6000 rpm.		** For gen2 cars (FA24D with a water/oil heat exchanger), there is an opinion that thicker oil + occasional cooldown laps is sufficient. For a complete beginner, another factor that can help is shoft-shifting at say 6000 rpm.
	** For gen1 cars (FA20D), I personally saw ~290ºF oil temperature on my first track day, not going that fast.		** For gen1 cars (FA20D), I personally saw ~290ºF / 140 С oil temperature on my first track day, not going that fast.
	** Jackson Racing is a commonly recommended option, although their customers reported issues with oil lines rubbing against various parts of the car over time -- need periodic inspection/replacement.		** Jackson Racing is a commonly recommended option, although their customers reported issues with oil lines rubbing against various parts of the car over time -- need periodic inspection/replacement.
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	** Michelin Pilot Sport 4 don't seem to last as long.		** Michelin Pilot Sport 4 don't seem to last as long.
	** A commonly recommended beginner tire is GT Radial SX2. Similar to Primacy HP, but lasts much longer and costs less.		** A commonly recommended beginner tire is GT Radial SX2. Similar to Primacy HP, but lasts much longer and costs less.

	== Consider ==		== Consider ==

Efnez: /* At the track */

2024-12-24T13:03:00Z

At the track

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	* Even with track pads, it's recommended to cool them down for a lap or two at the end of the session, and/or drive a few circles in the paddock.		* Even with track pads, it's recommended to cool them down for a lap or two at the end of the session, and/or drive a few circles in the paddock.
	* Make sure to cool down the oil before parking the car to about 200ºF or less. Again, find a place around the paddock where you can drive in circles for a few minutes. It is recommended to keep the RPMs above 3000 (15 mph in 1st gear) to let the oil circulate and cool down the engine evenly.		* Make sure to cool down the oil before parking the car to about 200ºF / 90 С or less. Again, find a place around the paddock where you can drive in circles for a few minutes. It is recommended to keep the RPMs above 3000 (15 mph in 1st gear) to let the oil circulate and cool down the engine evenly.
	* Don't use the parking brake between sessions, as it may distort the hot rear brake rotors and/or the parking brake pads can stick to the drum.		* Don't use the parking brake between sessions, as it may distort the hot rear brake rotors and/or the parking brake pads can stick to the drum.
	* Check oil level between sessions, make sure it's at max (or higher -- some actually prefer slighlty overfilling).		* Check oil level between sessions, make sure it's at max (or higher -- some actually prefer slighlty overfilling).

Efnez: /* Consider */

2024-03-24T13:34:44Z

Consider

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	* Cusco throttle pedal cover [for manual cars only]		* Cusco throttle pedal cover [for manual cars only]
	** Makes heel-toe'ing much easier.		** Makes heel-toe'ing much easier.
	* Gearbox fluid		* MT Gearbox fluid
	** The factory one is fine for 5-10 beginner pace track days.		** The factory one is fine for 5-10 beginner pace track days.
	** For longer/heavier use, a common recommendation is Motul Gear 300.		** For longer/heavier use, a common recommendation is Motul Gear 300.

Efnez: /* Preparing for your first track day */

2024-03-24T13:33:51Z

Preparing for your first track day

Efnez at 13:32, 24 March 2024

2024-03-24T13:32:16Z

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			[https://gt86.me/En English version]

	= Preparing for your first track day =		= Preparing for your first track day =

Efnez: /* Links */

2024-03-24T13:31:04Z

Links

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	* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/brakes/base.md oem brakes]		* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/brakes/base.md oem brakes]
	* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/brakes/pp_brembo.md Performance Package Brembo brakes]		* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/brakes/pp_brembo.md Performance Package Brembo brakes]
			* Brembo brakes [https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/en/catalogue/subaru-brz-2-0/000121166-1 bremboparts.com]

Efnez at 13:29, 24 March 2024

2024-03-24T13:29:36Z

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	* The factory brake fluid can boil under heavy use, which at best will mean you need to limp home and at worst you crash into a wall.		* The factory brake fluid can boil under heavy use, which at best will mean you need to limp home and at worst you crash into a wall.
	* Get a high-temperature DOT 4 fluid.		* Get a high-temperature DOT 4 fluid.
	* I personally used ATE Typ 200 (a.k.a. Super Gold), but other commonly used ones are Castrol SRF ~~and~~ Motul RBF660.		* I personally used ATE Typ 200 (a.k.a. Super Gold), but other commonly used ones are MOTUL RBF 600, Castrol SRF, Motul RBF660.
	* If you don't know how to replace the brake fluid, pay a professional shop to do it for you. It's a safety-critical job with a few things you can mess up, and fixing some of those things can be tricky (e.g. bubbles in the ABS module).		* If you don't know how to replace the brake fluid, pay a professional shop to do it for you. It's a safety-critical job with a few things you can mess up, and fixing some of those things can be tricky (e.g. bubbles in the ABS module).
	* Note that high temperature brake fluid requires more frequent changes. Some fluids recommend changing every 12 months, some even every 6 months.		* Note that high temperature brake fluid requires more frequent changes. Some fluids recommend changing every 12 months, some even every 6 months.
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	* Factory brake pads are not designed for high temperatures either, even the ones that come in the Performance Package. Ask me how I know...		* Factory brake pads are not designed for high temperatures either, even the ones that come in the Performance Package. Ask me how I know...
	* For God's sake, don't listen to Miata people who say you can use Hawk HPS/HP+. Miatas are ligher and slower. "Oh no what has happened to my brake rotors" and "why did the brake pad fall apart" complaints pop up ~weekly in track-oriented Facebook groups.		* For God's sake, don't listen to Miata people who say you can use Hawk HPS/HP+. Miatas are ligher and slower. "Oh no what has happened to my brake rotors" and "why did the brake pad fall apart" complaints pop up ~weekly in track-oriented Facebook groups.
	* A good pad to start with is Ferodo DS2500, albeit it has rusty brake dust. Other than the dust, it is ok for street driving. Most beginners go fast enough to start overheating DS2500 in just a few track days, so it's only good for beginners.		* A good pad to start with is Ferodo FDS 1639 or Ferodo DS2500, albeit it has rusty brake dust. Other than the dust, it is ok for street driving. Most beginners go fast enough to start overheating DS2500 in just a few track days, so it's only good for beginners.
			* Another brake pads options: endless me20 и ccrg, ferodo ds uno, ferodo ds 3000, PFC13, PMU 999, TRW, Endless sss brz ep418 back, Endless Ssy EP386 front
	* The only pad that I know that is good for street driving and performs reasonably well for light track days is CSG CP. It's pricey but lasts a long time. That being said, some people reported issues overheating these pads.		* The only pad that I know that is good for street driving and performs reasonably well for light track days is CSG CP. It's pricey but lasts a long time. That being said, some people reported issues overheating these pads.
	* If you're sure that you're going to do more than 5 track days, invest into a set of dedicated track pads. They will last a long time and minimize the risk of rotor-related issues. Put the track pads in before the track day, put the OEM pads in after the track day and you're good. Replacing brake pads is one of the easiest things to learn to do on your car.		* If you're sure that you're going to do more than 5 track days, invest into a set of dedicated track pads. They will last a long time and minimize the risk of rotor-related issues. Put the track pads in before the track day, put the OEM pads in after the track day and you're good. Replacing brake pads is one of the easiest things to learn to do on your car.

Efnez: /* Links */

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Links

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	= Links =		= Links =
	* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md] - Thanks Timur for this guide.		* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md] - Thanks Timur for this guide.
			* Beckman - The Physics of Racing - [[file:Beckman - The Physics of Racing.pdf\|thumb]]
	* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQsMZw3oiuK0_r4fOBAuK8GV0DnpLGNbHahe0UpyEQDiJY6SELixffBIzv7fDV3BaBgCdKb1QAqJZF_/pub 86DRIVE Challenge 2023 Rules Revision 1.0]		* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQsMZw3oiuK0_r4fOBAuK8GV0DnpLGNbHahe0UpyEQDiJY6SELixffBIzv7fDV3BaBgCdKb1QAqJZF_/pub 86DRIVE Challenge 2023 Rules Revision 1.0]
	* ~~Beckman - The Physics of Racing -~~ [[~~file~~:~~Beckman - The Physics of Racing~~.~~pdf\|thumb]~~]		* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/brakes/base.md oem brakes]
			* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/brakes/pp_brembo.md Performance Package Brembo brakes]

Efnez: /* At the track */

2023-12-13T19:31:09Z

At the track

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	* Don't use the parking brake between sessions, as it may distort the hot rear brake rotors and/or the parking brake pads can stick to the drum.		* Don't use the parking brake between sessions, as it may distort the hot rear brake rotors and/or the parking brake pads can stick to the drum.
	* Check oil level between sessions, make sure it's at max (or higher -- some actually prefer slighlty overfilling).		* Check oil level between sessions, make sure it's at max (or higher -- some actually prefer slighlty overfilling).

			== Maintenance ==

			* [https://youtu.be/um7Kp2iu0N0 How to change brake pads on a Subaru BRZ with Brembo brakes]

	= Links =		= Links =

Efnez at 17:47, 13 December 2023

2023-12-13T17:47:36Z

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	= Links =		= Links =
	* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md] - Thanks Timur for this guide.		* [https://github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md github.com/timurrrr/ft86/blob/main/performance_driving/track_day_prep.md] - Thanks Timur for this guide.
			* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQsMZw3oiuK0_r4fOBAuK8GV0DnpLGNbHahe0UpyEQDiJY6SELixffBIzv7fDV3BaBgCdKb1QAqJZF_/pub 86DRIVE Challenge 2023 Rules Revision 1.0]
	* Beckman - The Physics of Racing - [[file:Beckman - The Physics of Racing.pdf\|thumb]]		* Beckman - The Physics of Racing - [[file:Beckman - The Physics of Racing.pdf\|thumb]]

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	* Change the brake fluid		* Change the brake fluid
	* The factory brake fluid can boil under heavy use, which at best will mean you need to limp home and at worst you crash into a wall.		** The factory brake fluid can boil under heavy use, which at best will mean you need to limp home and at worst you crash into a wall.
	* Get a high-temperature DOT 4 fluid.		** Get a high-temperature DOT 4 fluid.
	* I personally used ATE Typ 200 (a.k.a. Super Gold), but other commonly used ones are MOTUL RBF 600, Castrol SRF, Motul RBF660.		** I personally used ATE Typ 200 (a.k.a. Super Gold), but other commonly used ones are MOTUL RBF 600, Castrol SRF, Motul RBF660.
	* If you don't know how to replace the brake fluid, pay a professional shop to do it for you. It's a safety-critical job with a few things you can mess up, and fixing some of those things can be tricky (e.g. bubbles in the ABS module).		** If you don't know how to replace the brake fluid, pay a professional shop to do it for you. It's a safety-critical job with a few things you can mess up, and fixing some of those things can be tricky (e.g. bubbles in the ABS module).
	* Note that high temperature brake fluid requires more frequent changes. Some fluids recommend changing every 12 months, some even every 6 months.		** Note that high temperature brake fluid requires more frequent changes. Some fluids recommend changing every 12 months, some even every 6 months.
	* Brake pads		* Brake pads
	* Factory brake pads are not designed for high temperatures either, even the ones that come in the Performance Package. Ask me how I know...		** Factory brake pads are not designed for high temperatures either, even the ones that come in the Performance Package. Ask me how I know...
	* For God's sake, don't listen to Miata people who say you can use Hawk HPS/HP+. Miatas are ligher and slower. "Oh no what has happened to my brake rotors" and "why did the brake pad fall apart" complaints pop up ~weekly in track-oriented Facebook groups.		** For God's sake, don't listen to Miata people who say you can use Hawk HPS/HP+. Miatas are ligher and slower. "Oh no what has happened to my brake rotors" and "why did the brake pad fall apart" complaints pop up ~weekly in track-oriented Facebook groups.
	* A good pad to start with is Ferodo FDS 1639 or Ferodo DS2500, albeit it has rusty brake dust. Other than the dust, it is ok for street driving. Most beginners go fast enough to start overheating DS2500 in just a few track days, so it's only good for beginners.		** A good pad to start with is Ferodo FDS 1639 or Ferodo DS2500, albeit it has rusty brake dust. Other than the dust, it is ok for street driving. Most beginners go fast enough to start overheating DS2500 in just a few track days, so it's only good for beginners.
	* Another brake pads options: endless me20 и ccrg, ferodo ds uno, ferodo ds 3000, PFC13, PMU 999, TRW, Endless sss brz ep418 back, Endless Ssy EP386 front
	* The only pad that I know that is good for street driving and performs reasonably well for light track days is CSG CP. It's pricey but lasts a long time. That being said, some people reported issues overheating these pads.		* The only pad that I know that is good for street driving and performs reasonably well for light track days is CSG CP. It's pricey but lasts a long time. That being said, some people reported issues overheating these pads.
	* If you're sure that you're going to do more than 5 track days, invest into a set of dedicated track pads. They will last a long time and minimize the risk of rotor-related issues. Put the track pads in before the track day, put the OEM pads in after the track day and you're good. Replacing brake pads is one of the easiest things to learn to do on your car.		** If you're sure that you're going to do more than 5 track days, invest into a set of dedicated track pads. They will last a long time and minimize the risk of rotor-related issues. Put the track pads in before the track day, put the OEM pads in after the track day and you're good. Replacing brake pads is one of the easiest things to learn to do on your car.
	* Which brake pads to pick is a topic of endless debates on forums. Commonly recommended budget-friendly options include:		* Which brake pads to pick is a topic of endless debates on forums. Commonly recommended budget-friendly options include:
	** PowerStop Track Day Spec		** PowerStop Track Day Spec
	** Carbotech XP10, XP12		** Carbotech XP10, XP12
	** G-LOC R10, R12		** G-LOC R10, R12
	** Please do your research on the forums/etc. about these pads before buying.		** Another brake pads options: endless me20 и ccrg, ferodo ds uno, ferodo ds 3000, PFC13, PMU 999, TRW, Endless sss brz ep418 back, Endless Ssy EP386 front
			** Please do your research on the forums/etc, about these pads before buying.
	* When replacing the pads, spend a few more minutes to take off the front rotors and remove the dust shields behind the rotors, as they limit the airflow that's important for cooling. Put the dust shield back for winter if you live in a place with snow, salt, etc.		* When replacing the pads, spend a few more minutes to take off the front rotors and remove the dust shields behind the rotors, as they limit the airflow that's important for cooling. Put the dust shield back for winter if you live in a place with snow, salt, etc.
	* Engine oil		* Engine oil
	* Which oil brand and viscosity to pick is a topic of endless holy wars on forums, Facebook groups, etc. I'm going to share what I think, it's up to you to follow it or vocally disagree.		** Which oil brand and viscosity to pick is a topic of endless holy wars on forums, Facebook groups, etc. I'm going to share what I think, it's up to you to follow it or vocally disagree.
	* The OEM oil is 0w-20 is too "thin" at high temperatures, not providing enough oil pressure to reliably lubricate the critical components of the engine.		** The OEM oil is 0w-20 is too "thin" at high temperatures, not providing enough oil pressure to reliably lubricate the critical components of the engine.
	* The JDM owners manual recommends 5w-30 for "heavy use".		** The JDM owners manual recommends 5w-30 for "heavy use".
	* I personally use either Mobil 1 5w-30 or Castrol 0w-30.		** I personally use either Mobil 1 5w-30 or Castrol 0w-30.
	* Some recommend thicker oils, such as 0w-40.		** Some recommend thicker oils, such as 0w-40.
	* Tow hook		* Tow hook
	* Many track organizations require two tow hooks, but the car only comes with one.		** Many track organizations require two tow hooks, but the car only comes with one.
	* Just buy a second one, you might be able to find a used one for very cheap.		** Just buy a second one, you might be able to find a used one for very cheap.
	* If you want to buy a nicer aftermarket tow hook, make sure it's actually designed for towing rather than just for the looks. Bizarrely, the instructions for the Perrin tow hook says something like "only designed for a slow straight pull" -- good luck telling something like that to the tow truck driver!		** If you want to buy a nicer aftermarket tow hook, make sure it's actually designed for towing rather than just for the looks. Bizarrely, the instructions for the Perrin tow hook says something like "only designed for a slow straight pull" -- good luck telling something like that to the tow truck driver!

	== Recommended ==		== Recommended ==